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Saturday, July 10, 2010

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God, I love it when you rub their noses in it.

The fault, dear Norman, is not in our stars
But in ourselves, that we are suckers

And that's why Norm's in the Progressive Democrats of America!!

Wheeee!!

Excuse me. I'll be drinking myself into a stupor, over in the next room.

Norman's been really drunk on Democrat kool-aid over the last few years. Since he dipped his toes in independent politics a few years back (http://www.zcommunications.org/why-i-changed-my-voter-registration-today-by-norman-solomon), I wonder what made him sell out? It's too bad nobody ever writes the essay "Why I came crawling back to the Democrats," since it might be educational, or at least entertaining.

I listened to Michael Moore give much the same shpiel on Democracy Now last Monday, and it was also pretty sad. The vegetable diet may be good for his waistline, but it's crushing his soul.

No real insight is required as to what makes the Solomons, Moores, et al cave repeatedly to cliquesters like President Hope and his marketers.

They want money and respectability and to be "team players." They want to be the people who "At least try to get something done." Even if what they try to get done goes against their stated ideals-- those same ideals that once allowed them to advance their careers on the backs of smelly outsiders, back in the days when nobody else would listen to/talk to/publish them.

Even if "what they try to get done" includes (in large part) co-operating in immobilizing and silencing anyone the cliquesters don't like, when the smelly outsiders are themselves trying to "do something."

...I wonder what made him sell out?

It doesn't sound like he's changed much since then, really--back then it was "support the Greens as long as they don't threaten the Democrats" and now he's talking about "an inside-outside strategy" (though he is more dismissive of third parties).

It's tough for me to listen to him spouting this kind of nincompoopery, because he was one of various guiding lights in my politically formative years. I think of him as Zombie Norman Solomon now--you know, he still looks like Norman Solomon, but inside there's just a gnawing hunger for brains.

They want money and respectability and to be "team players." They want to be the people who "At least try to get something done."

I'd say it's much more the latter in the case of Moore and Solomon. I think a lot of people have honestly arrived at the conclusion that there's no hope whatsoever of change outside the Democrats, so they're willing to work within the straitjacket--apparently in denial of the fact (as you say) that what they're "getting done" is basically the opposite of everything they believe in. Like Michael Moore touting his achievement of bringing enough pressure to bear on Bart Stupak to get him to vote for the mandatory health insurance bill. Yay! I convinced a Democrat to vote for a Republican initiative that goes against everything I've worked for when it comes to health care! Seen from a particular angle and in a certain light, my defeat looks something like a qualified victory!

...It's tough for me to listen to him spouting this kind of nincompoopery, because he was one of various guiding lights in my politically formative years. I think of him as Zombie Norman Solomon now--you know, he still looks like Norman Solomon, but inside there's just a gnawing hunger for brains...

[snerk] Yeah. No kidding. To borrow from Marisacat's great blog, these are the people manning the butterfly nets. Anything they say or do is simply another attempt to swing the net around and entrap a few more suckers for Obama & Co. I stay as far away from them as possible nowadays, because I can't admire or respect people who are so proud of doing this kind of shit for a buck. (Though I suppose the wannabees who do the same shit for free aren't any better.)

I agree, John. I really looked up to some of these people--until the last Dem Convention. I do think, though, that most of these guys are tired, and, fairly comfortable with the way things are now. They just attend Dem Party fundaraising dinners and path themselves on the back that they had a "victory" in Obama...I used to get emails from them and got in an argument with a few ie, their behavior as Obaam delegates at the DNC, consoring the intl live chat they held at their meeting, yeeling at everyone who was Left of Obama as "maoists"...its nauseating.

AND--how have you been?

Solomon seems pretty happy with that 41% he got pushing Marcy Winograd, but I'm not sure what he thinks he accomplished. An 18% landslide loss is not exactly a threat to the establishment, any more than a symbolic third party campaign that results in single-digit returns. I have yet to see that PDA has resulted in ANY victories, other than more press and attention for the likes of Solomon. It's telling that the one winning campaign he points to in the article, No on 16, was run by Greens (in coalition with Dems), not by PDA members.

Moore already has plenty of fame and attention, so I think the motivation is different for him. I think he's just beaten. He sounded pretty depressed in the interview you linked above. Getting 350 people to pay to join the Democrats and hang out with you isn't that impressive when you're as famous as he is. And I think that when the "must buy insurance" mandates kick in in a couple of years, Moore is enough of a populist that he'll admit that it was a mistake. He and the other Dems just have to keep polishing that turd for now because it's all they've got.

Fine, KDelphi, thanks for asking. Hope you're well too.

"Polishing that turd"? Perfect.

(You know, that'd be a good name for a blog. Or a band. Or a blog about a band.)

For a while, Solomon deigned to respond to my emails to him. That ended after I called him on his failure to actively support Matt Gonzalez's campaign. Here protested, noting that he did, in fact, endorse Gonzalez.

I alerted him to the fact that his "endorsement" came AFTER the election.

Haven't heard from him since.

On the broader point, Solomon's org PDA claims to be in process of "reviewing" its strategy.

(http://blog.pdamerica.org/2010/06/july-2010-are-pda’s-vision-goals-and-strategy-sufficient-to-deal-with-the-challenges-of-2010-and-2012/)


In particular, it recognizes that

"where no progressive Democrats are running or where they refuse to run on a progressive agenda, we should recruit progressive independents to run. Let the Party leaders know that they can not take progressive support for granted, that they will have to earn it. That’s key to gaining accountability from Party candidates and office holders."

Still no mention of the heretofore unmentionable third party option. But a light seems to be going on for some of them-though probably too much to hope for for ol' Norm.


JMC:

"...And I think that when the "must buy insurance" mandates kick in in a couple of years, Moore is enough of a populist that he'll admit that it was a mistake. He and the other Dems just have to keep polishing that turd for now because it's all they've got.

Well, yes and no. A great many people in the hope brigade have nothing now, and when the full force of that B.S. "reform" hits, they'll still have nothing. Well, nothing but more debt and the promise of jail time if they can't pay it off.

OTOH, Moore, Solomon, and their ilk will presumably still be able to shoulder their medical bills and insurance. Between whatever money and professional reps they've managed to game the system for thus far, I expect they'll be just fine. Personally.

I think this is worth remembering the next time one of them picks up the butterfly net and starts waving it around again. :/

"Every time Norm clips a wing/His bank account goes all 'KA-CHING!'"

Or something like that.

The turd wants to help us, but it's being stopped by the Evil Repuglicans.

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