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Wednesday, February 17, 2010

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It makes me think no one was around during the Clinton era. Same exact stuff. Of course, the same people running stuff are the same from that era, so no surprises there.

What I really want to know is, why am I not supposed to have any memories pre-2001? Both Dems and Repubs like it that way...

It might be ineffectual, but I think it'd scare Obama quite a bit and lessen his chances in the fall. Teddy Kennedy's run against Carter might not hurt him later in the year against Reagan--I'm guessing some Kennedy voters then joined the Anderson campaign. Carter lost by a big margin anyway, but all that liberal criticism probably lowered his liberal turnout. Also guessing there--I haven't seen any studies (or bothered to look, for that matter).

I think you're being a little hard on John MacArthur. He supported Nader in 2000 and has been consistently critical of the Democratic party as well as the American political system as a whole. I don't think he's suggesting that a primary opponent against Obama is the only solution; just one that he thinks many people could support.

I didn't mean to bust MacArthur's hump specifically, and you're right that he's written some good stuff (like this). And I'd agree that if he's putting this forward as just one tactic among many it's not without merit, though I'm not as convinced that that's what he was doing (especially since he took a glancing shot at more radical notions).

But if a primary challenge is the best we can come up with after two decades of genocide, wars, and corporate and planetary sellouts by Democrats, wrap it up. And in reality even this tepid suggestion goes light years beyond anything most liberals would contemplate no matter how disgruntled they might become; I talked to one Democratic voter in 2008 who agreed entirely with Kucinich but was too timid to vote for him even in the primary, out of a fear that that one vote would give Hillary Clinton a victory over Barack Obama in California (a horror too awful to contemplate, apparently, based on the tremendous policy differences between them). Imagine the counterarguments to MacArthur: "But if we support Dean against Obama in the primary, Evan Bayh will be the nominee! Waah!"

Just shoot me now.

I'm all in favor of this. Let the idiots bash one another instead of ritually flogging Nader, or McKinney, or some other Leftward straggler for once in their miserable lives.

[gets popcorn]

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