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In other words, more Americans are terrified that some shifty Mexican immigrant is going to steal their cushy tomato-picking job...

Naah. What they're terrified of is that the shifty Mexican immigrant will impact the job creation engine (item 1 on your list) and place them into positions of greater uncertainty and risk.

People are feeling precarious, but putting on a brave face -- we as American's don't want to appear snivelly, but under that bravado, we're shaking like jello.

But fairness doesn't matter one whit; like ignorance of the law, ignorance of the science is no excuse, and the forces we've set in motion are utterly indifferent to our indifference. If we fail to stop this, no matter what our excuses might be, we're all going to share the consequences.

1. Consequences? Look at the credit burden that most Americans have -- we plan to die before paying it off.

2. Ignorance of science? Science is in conflict with the political economy. We are bombarded to buy in the present, live in the present. See point 1 above.

3. I'm not going to help the overclass retain their wealth and segregation. In death and disaster we will be united. They may hold it off a while longer, but without me, the underclass to unclog their toilets, they'll join me soon enough. They being too good to touch a plunger themselves.

Want my participation so that I can help put out the fire? Change the rules and stop waging class warfare against me -- because right now I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

What they're terrified of is that the shifty Mexican immigrant will impact the job creation engine (item 1 on your list) and place them into positions of greater uncertainty and risk.

Actually I was giving them the benefit of the doubt by casting it in economic terms, since I think much of the anti-immigrant sentiment is just good old-fashioned xenophobia.

Science is in conflict with the political economy.

Yep, and like I said, the facts underlying the science don't give a damn about political economy. Nature bats last, and this time we're the baseball.

In death and disaster we will be united. They may hold it off a while longer, but without me, the underclass to unclog their toilets, they'll join me soon enough.

I'm with you on this to an extent, but nonetheless it comes under the heading of cutting off your nose to spite your own face. And while it's true that "we're all going to share the consequences", it won't be equally; oodles of money will definitely allow some people to stay above the fray for much longer than they otherwise could, if only by moving themselves to wherever it's still the most livable. But if the worst comes to pass and we really are beset with widespread famine, drought, water shortages, killer storms, resource wars, and other horrors, it won't be too much of a comfort to be at the highest point on the dung heap. And at that point if you want to organize an assault on Larry Ellison's Siberian beachfront compound, count me in.

Actually I was giving them the benefit of the doubt by casting it in economic terms, since I think much of the anti-immigrant sentiment is just good old-fashioned xenophobia.

Although there's some xenophobia in the US, I don't think it's that prevalent (in my observations). Most of the fear tends to be economics driven, and particularly driven by 1) the dog-eat-dog, everyone for themselves mentality (also known as focus on individuality at the expense of supporting social structures), 2) the fear that their personal consumption and comfort will be impacted by the underclass interfering in property rights and property acquisition, and 3) general income volatility related to 1).

I think these three factors also extend to the relationship between the middle class and whatever passes for the lower classes in the US.

like ignorance of the law, ignorance of the science is no excuse, and the forces we've set in motion are utterly indifferent to our indifference.

You're channeling "The Cold Equations"; seems like nobody remembers that old sci-fi story anymore. Ironic that they crop up when heat death threatens human life on Earth. ( here or here )

I think Capitalism is partly to blame for that ignorance, too. Capitalism [American-style, anyway] teaches us that if only everybody would reach for their slice of pie as hard as they can, pushing and shoving everyone else out of the way, then the pie will somehow magically multiply and everyone will have enough. There won't be any losers! No downside! For people who really believe that, it's only a small step to convince themselves that the principle "Entropy Increases" is false.

Thomas: Great catch—now I'm kicking myself for not titling the posting "The Warm Equations". Ah well, maybe next time....

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